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Groundshare back on the agenda
Michael Calvin from the Daily Mirror believes the city of Liverpool must show ‘solidarity’ and build a ‘shrine’ to its collective passion.
Calvin argues that Everton can ill afford to rely on ‘sentiment’ and believes the club will be ‘sucked deeper into the quicksand of inevitable decline’ without it being seriously looked at.
He infers that Liverpool owner John W Henry is pragmatic on the idea and cites that he is ‘willing to think the unthinkable’.
He concludes that Everton ‘have nothing to lose but their Premier League status and one of the best managers in the game’.
Original Source: Daily Mirror
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So, what could Everton bring to the table? It is clear that under the current ownership they are going nowhere their activity in the last few transfer windows shows that. Playing in a bigger stadium will not contribute, they are not going to conjure up supporters from nowhere and they can hardly charge more or the current supporters will leave in droves.
Without selling all their decent players they can contribute nothing to the stadium build while increasing it’s costs.
Any naming rights deal will be reduced by Everton’s appeal being less than LFC’s and the effects on the playing surface of playing twice a week will be detrimental to both clubs.
I’m afraid that there is no value in a groundshare.
The only thing I have seem that may work is the back-to-back stadium that was mooted a few years ago, but Everton have no money, insufficient supports and a desperate need to spend any spare money on the plying squad so any pluses that come from the back-to-back design are immediately undermined
As one of the lads eloquently put it at yesterday’s meeting: “I wouldn’t share a fucking bus with them”
Everton FC still scraping the bottom of the barrel…..same old story.
Without a doubt ground sharing will guarantee the future of football on Merseyside.
Liverpool are in dire straits they have declined to the point they can’t compete with the big teams anymore, they are not capable of attracting the best players or managers, and have now become a upper mid table team at best, competing with likes of Stoke and Vila. While United, Chelsea and City attract world class players, the reds must settle for the next step down, having to sign average and washed out players. e.g Adam, Bellamy, Henderson, Carroll, Downing and an can only get an old fragile legend to manage them. Unfortunatley for the reds, they need us more than we need them, and a shared stadium with would at least allow them a small chance to generate some extra revenue in the hope of slowing the rot.
We are unfortunate at the moment by being hampered by poor owners, and a non existent marketing strategy. But with a packed new stadium and half the stadium naming rights to generate massive funds for David Moyes to sign the great players that this club deserves. Everton’s huge potential to new investors would become irresistible and the club would soon be attracting the huge inward investment that will send us back to the top tier of English and European football.
Nice to see the redshite fans surfing OUR websites……obviously nothing else to do.
Everton’s value in the shared stadium project would be the likely increase in available public funds. At this point they do not have any other source of finance to contribute, however, should a shared stadium be announced their appeal to a potential buyer would increase and the entire picture could change.
I disagree with Phil about Everton devaluing the naming rights as their presence would in fact increase the frequency of airtime given to the name, therby increasing it’s value. Bluedave is wrong, Liverpool are in the ascendancy with new owners whose enormous resources and experience make their return to football’s top table an inevitability.
The most compelling reason for a groundshare is not financial, it is spiritual and emotional. The comment above ‘I wouldn’t share a fucking bus wiht them’ is typical of the brainless bitterness from both sides and was probably uttered by someone too young to remember the awesome pride and unity at goodison during the minutes silence in before the first derby after hillsborough. I remember standing on the Kop singing, ‘Merseyside, Merseyside, Merseyside’ before watching McMahon and Reid kick lumps out of eachother the having a pint in the Elm Tree with the Blue noses. We each owe our existence to the other, lets embrace that and unite.
Michael Calvin is a gobshite of the highest order. He despises Everton. He touted Rooney to leave, advocated Lescott’s departure, wrote for a couple of years that Arteta was headed to Man City and has spent many columns imploring Everton to leave us. By the same token, in his latest shitty column today, he bemoans the state of the club yet at the same time has the gall to castigate fans angry at Kenwright’s failure.
The ground share idea is your atypical simplistic and clueless national press idea from London-based media. It ignores basic facts, like Kenwright saying he is open to the idea already (as mentioned in the meeting transcript), whilst John Henry has already said that the fans will not go for it (means LFC fans, mostly) so he won’t bring it up.
So Calvin is advocating an idea than nobody wants and will never happen. If he had any sort of real interest or journalistic urge, he’d have noted the football discussion conference meeting with Ian Ayre & Philip Carter held earlier this week, in which it was acknowledged what LFC needs and EFC needs are too different things at this moment in time. The sad fact is LFC would instantly fill a 60000 seater stadium with all the tourists they bring to the City, whereas it would take a few years of heavy investment and possibly success for EFC to attract enough fans to fill that on a regular basis.
Sorry, small correction to the above – he implored Moyes to leave us.
It should be remembered that it’s still early days for John Henry and FSG.
They will rightly explore all options including the groundshare.
But no blue should be encouraged by that because it’s only a matter of time before John Henry and FSG come to same conclusion every other red has – we don’t want it.
the toffee web site would not even encourage their fans to sign the hilsborough epetition ! they refuse to use the name liverpool refering us as the red shite (which is a compliment)as we clearly get up their noses. would their be a kop and the bitter end. give them f all.
there used to be one hatton bitter type in a thousand now there is one in ten. i see them everywhere they snarl when they spout their stupid shite, you cant h3elp but hear them in markets, on buses etc, i used to drink with loads of real evertonians and liverpulians the best banter in the world but now its just one sided hatred, thats the one in ten, the other nine are sensible and speak their views quietly, not pro kenwight the opposite but not hate mongers.
there is not a chance in a trillion of a groundshare unless efc find a sound buyer but they need to do it very soon because it will be decided in the next few months. renting at a few million a year makes more sense.
this link appeared on lfc news now hence the above posts
Firstly this article shows up on lfcs newsnow site so thats why you might have liverpool fans on here.
Secondly whoever thinks that lfc needs a groundshare more than efc is either a few steps short of a stairs or is just in denial.
With the rumours doing the rounds that irish billionaire jp mcmanus being interested in efc for efcs sake i hope its true. Like lfc last year you need to find an investor fast. No genuine football fan wants to see any prestigious club fall into decline no matter what the rivalry is.
As for the lfc groundshare idea efc stand to gain alot more than us. Thats why its mr kenwright who seems intent on keeping the topic alive as does cllr anderson. Its a no goer from lfcs perspective, the owners know the fans dont want it and thats why it will never happen.
What is the Stan Howard show doing on here. If he can’t write anything constructive, then maybe he should go and watch a game of football somewhere, where he might get a little knowledge about what is going on in Merseyside football.
Nathan, I apologise for the comment about naming rights you are probably correct.
The main difficulty apart from funding is one that you can read amongst these posts. I have been a Liverpool supporter for 51 years now and can remember watching on particular Derby game from the midst od Everton supporters club seats in Gwladys street (long story it was my mate’s turn to get tickets!).
The year was 1982 Glen keeley got himself sent off. And we were surrounded by EFC supporters. In spite of the score there was a lot of good natured banter and I made a couple of friends that I still have. Nowadays we’d be lucky to escape alive.
Unfortunatley the nature of support has deteriorated and without cages I don’t see that a ground share could work.
I sincerely hope that Everton can sort out the financial problems and return to challenging for honours. I would far rather see Everton winning trophies than Manc/London sides (as long as they’re not beating us to do it!.
There is plenty of bollocks written on various websites everyday but Bluedave mate you are the most seriously deluded individual i have ever witnessed comment anywere.
Bluedave,
After reading your post, i’ve come to the conclusion you’re on some really strong medication. If you are, can i suggest you take it all.
bluedave is obviously a spastic , how is liverpool fc in dire straits u simpleton, your like a lot of efc fans just jealous about de pool spending over 110 mill since jan( and not able to sign quality players). u are an idiot dickhead dave
oh sorry i forgot that moyes has 10 mill to spend in jan for a striker and midfielder, the good times are back, just pathetic with no future as usual.
Why do everton need a bigger stadium? They can’t fill goodison week in week out.
they couldn fill a bingo bus
Redz, I deduced from reading your post and the laughable grammar that you have used (de pool – for fuck’s sake what a lid) in your critique of Everton FC that you too represent the stereotypical but true reflection of the great unwashed breatheren from across the park that spends their day’s navel gazing, drinking shandy from chipped circa 1984 Liverpool crested tea-cups, contemplating the next push for both European (stealing from your own fans) and domestic glory
Lord Grantchester’s Cat,
If you mean what I think you mean, your confusing of ‘incidents’ is only worsened by your sucking of Murdoch’s cock – you had BETTER not be an Evertonian!!
lol- to those who didn’t spot it: bluedave’s rant was tongue in cheek. As a non-bitter red I’d rather build a new stadium and then offer a groundshare deal to Everton (pay as you play) –